Is it bad to want to be rich? | The Gray Area - October 5, 2026 -
Is wanting to be rich selfish? Does making money require exploiting other people? Or can the pursuit of wealth actually benefit society?Subscribe to our channel! http://goo.gl/0bsAjO
In this episode, guest host Sally Herships speaks with philosopher Jason Brennan about his book, "Why It's OK to Want to Be Rich." Jason makes the case that both wanting money and earning money are signs that we’re creating value for society. In this conversation, they explore why society believes money corrupts relationships, what wealthy individuals owe to society, and the cultural differences around money and wealth.
This episode was produced in partnership with Vox's Future Perfect.
00:00 Intro
03:19 Wanting to be rich is good for society
14:27 Capitalism, winners, and losers
24:43 Wealth, taxes, and banking
34:25 Does capitalism require exploitation?
39:57 What do the rich owe society?
Host: Sally Herships, journalist and director of the audio program at Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism. (Find Sally’s work here).
Guest: Jason Brennan, professor of philosophy and public affairs at Georgetown University’s McDonough School of Business.
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