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Who are America’s heroes? Who deserves our admiration and a place in our nation’s story?
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In today’s episode, guest host Jonquilyn Hill talks with constitutional law professor Kermit Roosevelt about his book The Nation That Never Was: Reconstructing America’s Story, which argues that America’s most important ancestors are not the founding fathers but the heroes of Reconstruction. The two discuss the importance of founding myths, why Americans are constantly fighting over “the real America,” and what it means to be American.
Guest Host: Jonquilyn Hill, Host of Vox’s Explain It To Me podcast
Guest: Kermit Roosevelt, constitutional law professor and author of The Nation That Never Was: Reconstructing America’s Story
00:00 Intro
03:16 America’s two foundings
07:20 The fight over America’s founding myth
15:18 Why every nation needs a story
21:43 Does a national story have to be a success story?
34:06 Why are Americans so attached to their ancestors?
42:02 Will the political pendulum swing back-and-forth forever?
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Sean talks with Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy about the crisis lurking beneath America's political dysfunction. Murphy’s new book “Crisis of the Common Good” argues that the country is suffering from a collapse of connection, belonging, and purpose. They discuss loneliness, powerlessness, liberalism, democracy, Trumpism, corporate power, social media, and why so many Americans feel disconnected from their communities, their institutions, and each other.
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Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling)
Guest: Sen. Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT)
00:00 Intro
01:11 America’s ‘spiritual sickness’
06:34 What does it mean to pursue the ‘common good?’
10:33 In America, the powerful profit from ‘the disintegration of the broader populace’
12:14 The story Trump is telling America
16:25 How does the Right diagnosis America’s spiritual crisis?
23:14 Why the Left’s rhetoric isn’t landing
36:35 Bernie Sanders and the Democratic Party
38:48 Why AI is the most important policy fight of the future
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Young men are no longer happy with Donald Trump. His net approval rating among the group that famously helped propel him to the White House in 2024 has dropped by 56 points.
But is this shift real, or just noise? Vox’s Astead Herndon recently went to an event billed as an opportunity for the administration to reconnect with young men to find out: the UFC Freedom 250 event in Washington DC.
00:00 - Is Trump losing young men?
00:58 - Inside the White House’s UFC event
01:25 - Gas prices and the Iran war
03:15 - Epstein files and a crisis of elite transparency
09:01 - Where masculinity and politics overlap
12:43 - Jack Posobiec on how Trump reached young men in 2024
16:58 - Defending the Trump administration’s foreign policy
17:49 - The Epstein dilemma
23:07 - Can JD Vance woo young men?
24:01 - The Blue Dog strategy
26:40 - What Astead took away from his trip to Washington DC
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